The party was coming to an end so we had to discontinue our discussion. The following day at work Kudirat said she checked and found that the Quoranic verses were true. She would like to hear about how the Trinity solves the sin question. We have an hour break so, we chose to use it to understand the mysterious conundrum of the Trinity which I call ‘the three like one, one like three.’ A conundrum worth demystifying. All eyes and ears were turned to me so I continued.
“If God was going to create gregarious beings then He must need be the first to experience and to enjoy gregariousness. If He did not ensure this then the scripture will be deceitful in asserting ‘His preeminent state in all things’. For this number one reason, I believe, that God exists eternally a Triune distinct Personages in one God. Jehovah did this to engender the theological relationship theory of I-It, I-Thou and We-You. The ‘I-It’ is a subject-object relationship the Persons experienced with non-gender substances before intelligent beings came into being. I-Thou was first experienced by God such that when any of the Father, Christ or the Holy Spirit would have said, “You” it was to the eternal Christ, the ageless Holy Spirit or the Ancient of Days. God must experience plurality first as each One of them had on several occasions addressed the Other Two with a plural, “You,” experiencing sociality. Long before creationism, in the eternity past, had the Godhead, of three distinct Persons, practised gregariousness. This fact debunks the fatal defect of Unitarian views of Islam, Judaism and Jehovah’s Witnesses that there is only one person in the Godhead.
The second reason takes a soteriological stance. God has to be more than one to satisfy the legality that binds salvation. God as the Judge cannot be the Advocate to the created when he eventually falls. God alone can perform the vicarious death, hence, the Eternal Son. God, as a Judge (without a deputy), is eternally in heaven on the throne. How does He prove His power, His ubiquity and His divine acceptance of earthly worship? The Holy Spirit fills all, He is the all-powerful power Endower and is the One who is seated in the holy of holies in the great Jerusalem Temple as the Jewish Jehovah. Is there a fourth that you know of? I think not! You can only be saved from your sinful nature by the finished work of God (not of the Judge (the Father) but the Christ: called ‘Son’ in His representative capacity of Divinity). Spiritual empowerment and sealing to prove the genuineness of salvation is provided by the Holy Spirit so that when you appear before the thrice holy Eternal God His judgment of Ezekiel 18:4, “The soul that sinneth, it shall die,” will not fall on you. “O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!” Romans 11:33.
Many are the scriptures that corroborate the Trinitarian conceptual stand, each of which gives not Personages more or less than three. Matthew 3:13-17 records the baptism of Jesus. Baptism is testamentary of sin exoneration which identifies one with the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. Which of the sins is Jesus guilty of? None! This baptism is meant to identify the Lord with mankind He came to exonerate: for water is a scriptural symbolism of the human race. In verse sixteen we see John, not inclined to suffer Him for the ritual, knowing the Personage standing before him. Two heavenly Entities amalgamated to confirm the act, two being the number of testimony and of witness, proving that Christ is the only visibility of the Godhead. “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:” Matthew 28:19. ‘Teach’: mathēteuō (math-ayt-yoo’-o) {which comes from mathētēs (math-ay-tes) ‘a learner’} means, intransitively, ‘to become a pupil’; transitively, ‘to disciple, that is, enroll as scholar.’ ‘Name’ is onoma (on’-om-ah) ‘a “name” (literally or figuratively), (authority, character)’, which comes from ginōskō ‘knowledge;’ which compares with oninēmi (on-in’-ay-mee) ‘to gratify, that is, (middle voice) to derive pleasure or advantage from.’ This ‘name’ (note its singularity – encapsulating the three) is a title (the knowledge of which is as gratifying as it is advantageous) which is shared by the Trinity. ‘Son’ an interesting huios (hwee-os), the highest form of sonship, culturally, speaks of a one whose representative capacity of his father is a legality.
2Corinthians 13:14, “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.” This is the benediction shared by Christians in a Church service which involves the Trinity. God will not share His glory (Isaiah 42:8) so why would Jesus and the Holy Spirit share a worshipful rite with the Father? Ah! You see, They share the common Deity.
Jesus told them, “This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me” 1Corinthians 11:25. This communion takes us back to Exodus 12:14 when God told them, “And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever;” a proof that Jehovah and Jesus are the same. I believe it would not be difficult to see who God meant in His reference to ‘us’, found in Genesis 1:26. They could never be angels as is erroneously believed. Angels are not participatory to creationism or else we will be paying obeisance to them in worshipful subjection, having created us.
In the book of Revelation 5:13, obeisance is given to God on the throne and to the Lamb. “Where is the ‘Third’?” you may ask. HE is very much there: “…and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God;” Revelation 4:5. When a person gets born again he receives the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, Acts 1:4-5, 2:1-4, which Jesus authored, John 3:14 and John 1:29; having been ordained by the Father, John3:16. Amen!
Jesus promised to visit whoever opens his heart to Him when He knocks, Revelation 3:20. Jesus promised to come with the Father, John 14:23, (not forgetting the already divine indwelling). Trinity! We pray to the Father (Luke 11:2), in the name of Jesus (John 14:13) and in the energy of the Holy Spirit, Romans 8:26. Trinity! The only reason why we desire heaven is because of the Father, seated in the divinity of the rainbow administration of HIS Royal Majesty (John 16:28 & Revelation 4:3); and the only thing which gets us there is ‘the walk’ with Him, patterned after the footsteps of Jesus, the most enigmatic Personage to tread upon the surface of this terra firma (Matthew 9:9), under the divine tutelage and in dwelling of the Holy Spirit (John 14:26), and it is in this verse we come to the acknowledgement of the uniqueness of a classic working in unison of the Trinity! Amen! At the Incarnation, there is the Son, given by the Father (Isaiah 9:6; John 3:16) and the indefatigable, overshadowing power of the Holy Ghost (Luke 1:35), working in a mysterious unison to perfect the salvation of mankind. You can be a glorious recipient of the celestial gift of God today. How? It is by getting born again. You will have to pray this prayer as if it is your last prayer: Dear heavenly Father, I come to You now in the name of Jesus Christ. I believe in my heart that Jesus is the Son of God. I believe that Jesus died on the cross for my sin. I believe that You raised Him from the dead. I confess with my mouth that Jesus is Lord and I receive Him now as my Lord and my Saviour. I give God all the glory. Amen!”
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You have a strange conclusion to come to believe in a tri-une god. You say God has to be tri-une because he created gregarious beings, by which I think you mean god created beings who are fond of the company of others. so when I made children because I too love to have them being pleased with others I must tri-une. It is not because the animals and human beings are associating in flocks and herds that this would mean their Maker to be tri-une or not being able to Be on His Own a One Being.
That makes it very clear that you want to transpose your human weaknesses on the Omnipotent Omnipresent.
Again in this writing, you accusing me of philospysing when binging you the biblical texts, you yourself are philosphysing but than with your own human words or perhaps with human doctrines you are implanted when growing up in a denomination, without sincerely thinking and/or doubting about them but accepting them as doctrines. You write “Jehovah did this to engender the theological relationship theory of I-It, I-Thou and We-You.” Where is such philosophy written in Scripture? There is no such thought to be proven with a biblical text.
Suddenly you also come to speak about an “eternal Christ”. Are you than gainsaying or refuting that Jesus was born and died? Eternality means not having a birth and not having a death. In all languages of the world eternal denotes without beginning or end of existence, everlasting, ceaseless, unchangeable. Though Scriptures is also clear that Jesus did not change of form after he was taken out of the dead; When he appeared to his disciples Jesus also proofed he is not a spirit, whilst the Only One God, the god of Abraham and God of Jesus is Spirit.
“for it is we who are the circumcised, we who worship by the spirit of god and make our boast in the Messiah Yeshua! we do not put confidence in human qualifications,” (Philippians 3:3 CJB)
“god is spirit; and worshippers must worship him spiritually and truly.”” (John 4:24 CJB)
“similarly, the spirit helps us in our weakness; for we don’t know how to pray the way we should. but the spirit himself pleads on our behalf with groanings too deep for words;” (Romans 8:26 CJB)
The Spirit God gives His Spirit to those who ask for it but they do not become spirit by it. Jesus was given authority by his heavenly Father but never had the same power as God. Jesus recognised that Gdo was the Higher Being without Whom he could do nothing; When Christ would be God he could always do everything and did not have to wait for a sign of Gdo when to do a certain thing (like the miracle of Cana where Jesus says he had to wait until it was God’s time).
Jesus clearly indicates that he is not god by saying
“My Father, who hath given [them] unto me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch [them] out of the Father’s hand.” (John 10:29 ASV)
“2 In my Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I come again, and will receive you unto myself; that where I am, [there] ye may be also. 4 ¶ And whither I go, ye know the way.” (John 14:2-4 ASV)
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall he do; because I go unto the Father.” (John 14:12 ASV)
“I will not leave you desolate: I come unto you.” (John 14:18 ASV)
“Ye heard how I said to you, I go away, and I come unto you. If ye loved me, ye would have rejoiced, because I go unto the Father: for the Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28 ASV)
“who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped,” (Philippians 2:6 ASV)
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He is called Jesus Christ. Jesus was born by Mary. Christ wasn’t born. He could only be given. Prophet Micah made Him known in the 5th chapter of his book in the 2nd verse, He, the Christ, not Jesus had been going forth from eternity past. Only God, as we know, dwelleth in the eternity past. Proverbs 8:30, “Then I was by him, [as] one brought up [with him]: and I was daily [his] delight, rejoicing always before him”. This account dates back in the eternity past and only the celestial intelligence could reveal it.
If “An academic discipline that seeks truth through reasoning rather than empiricism”; as Livio Dictionary defines it is what philosophy is then it’s not really wrong to use philosophy, as far long as it agrees with scripture. Philosophical approaches abound in the Bible. A classic example is found in John 3:3. A few of them are: Nehemiah 8:10, “…for the joy of the LORD is your strength.”; Matthew 11:28, “Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest”; Job 28:28 “the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding”; Proverbs 1:7 “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge”; 1Samuel 15:22 “Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams”. Today, the Bible is the foundation of unnumbered philosophies. You can’t, for instance, employ Hegelian dialectic to do any exegesis of scripture.
Why would God tell Moses to script, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness…”. What entity or entities explain(s) the plural ‘us’? The ‘us’ couldn’t be angels, else we’d have to be worshipping angels for being partakers of creationism. But check out Gen 1:27, “So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them”. One of THEM is singled out here. Do you know that Christ is God’s image? Gen 3:22 “And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever”. Who are the ‘us’ of this verse?
In Gen. 3:11 we have, “And he said, Who told thee that thou [wast] naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?” The first person singular is employed by the LORD God, who had come down personally: for He had always come, all the way from heaven. The same LORD God did use the personal pronoun, saying, “…not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him”. We know this is Christ, taking into cognizance the Johannine “All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made” [John 1:3]. Colossians 1:16-17 “For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: v17) And he is before all things, and by him all things consist”.
Proof of Christ’s deity is His unequivocal involvement in creationism.
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Your text goes on with philosophysing and bringing up very weak arguments on which I shall not spend time to elaborate.
You trying to convince the Muslim woman and your readers that “Many are the scriptures that corroborate the Trinitarian conceptual stand, each of which gives not Personages more or less than three.” is just not true but also makes no sense. You than going to speak about Jesus his baptism as testamentary of sin exoneration which identifies one with the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus is going way out of proving that Jesus is God and also let us see that you did not come to understand the reason why Jesus wanted himself to be baptised and that you do not want to hear what God had to say about that man who was standing in the river Jordan and got baptised by his cousin.
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